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The Myths of Avalon

26th August 2012

Read it.

Charlie Stross is Doing Stuff (getting more books out, I hope, since he is one of my Recommended Writers over there on the right – buy and read his books; you’ll be glad you did) and so is having some guests in on his blog. This is one of them:

Let me say it again, louder. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR THIS. The bulk of our extant sources – law codes and chronicles, saints’ lives and charters, prose tales and poems – paint a picture that is almost the exact opposite. Women in early mediaeval Wales and Ireland were far from equal. They remained, lifelong, legal minors, subject to the control of their father, husband or son. Their lives were worth less than those of men. They could not own land, nor could they own much property, and, with a few minor exception (all small personal items, clothing mainly) they could not dispose of their property without the permission and sanction of the man who controlled them. They could not bear witness in court, even to acts of violence against them, because, legally, they were not fully people, their words weren’t valid in law. They could not inherit land (save in very, very unusual circumstances) nor could they inherit offices. They could not choose their own husbands, and, while they could divorce their husbands in some circumstances, their children would remain with the father (whose property they were) and a divorced woman would probably have to return to her birth kin. Once there, she was likely to end up as a servant, unless her father was very powerful and could find a man willing to marry a non-virgin. Women whose kin cast them off had nowhere to go, no options beyond service or prostitution. And, if they left the lands of their husband, father, son or overlord, they could be enslaved without sanction. (This latter could befall men, too: outside your homeland, your legal status became much lower.) Women did not rule, did not become warriors, did not make laws or participate in public society. They were, by and large, property. Irish law codes make this explicit: the two units of currency recognised under them are cattle and slave girls. Women were commodities, not full legal people.

Very refreshing. Even more refreshing would be one of these fine folks casting the cold light of reality on the New Age socialist claptrap that Charlie pushes whenever he gets off of the Writing Reservation. But I suppose that would be too much to expect. Pity.

5 Responses to “The Myths of Avalon”

  1. RealRick Says:

    Tim, have you looked at your list of Recommended Writers? No Charlie Stross.
    Alex Bledsoe
    Andrew Grant
    C. S. Friedman
    Carrie Vaughn
    David J Williams
    Dennis Lehane
    Elizabeth Moon
    Eric Flint
    Harry Connolly
    Holly Lisle
    Jeff Somers
    Jerry Pournelle
    Jim Butcher
    Joe Abercrombie
    John Birmingham
    John Ringo
    John Scalzi
    Josh Bazell
    Ken Scholes
    Kim Harrison
    Lynn Flewelling
    Marie Brennan
    Matthew Woodring Stover
    Michael A. Stackpole
    Nancy Kress
    Naomi Novik
    Neal Asher
    Neil Gaiman
    Nicolás Gómez Dávila (“Don Colacho”)
    Patricia Briggs
    Patricia C. Wrede
    Patrick Rothfuss
    Richard K. Morgan
    S. M. Stirling
    Sarah Zettel
    Scott Westerfeld
    Sir Terry Pratchett
    Steven R Boyett
    Walter Jon Williams

  2. Tim of Angle Says:

    An inexplicable oversight, which I have now corrected.

  3. Dennis Nagle Says:

    So essentially the Celts were the Taliban of their day.

  4. Tim of Angle Says:

    Everyone was the Taliban of their day. The Taliban are Standard Primitive People, and Islam attempts to enforce that primitivism universally. The Left ignores this fly in their Worship The Primitive ointment, thinking that, like tourists in a safari park, they can point and ooo and ahhh and take pictures from the safety of their Land Rovers and then go home at night.

    I am reminded of a story from the book THE DEVIL’S TEETH, which is about the Farallon Islands west of San Francisco, well-known as a shark and seal hangout. Some do-gooders found an orphan baby seal, raised it tenderly, then ‘released it into the wild’ from a boat near the Farallons, presumably expecting it to rejoin its mates on the beaches. The seal made one lap around the boat and then was gobbled up by a local shark, to the shock and dismay of the enviro-tourists. I’m sure none of them learned anything useful about nature from the incident, but went on hugging trees and saving the smelt.

  5. Dennis Nagle Says:

    “The Left ignores this fly in their Worship The Primitive ointment”
    That’s funny, I don’t know a single person on the Left–and I know quite a few of them–who ‘Worships the Primitive’, whatever that means.
    On the other hand I know quite a few conservatives who worship the Way Things Were, though the Golden Age they long never existed except in their imaginations.